Monday, September 17, 2007

You stay classy, Bush/War supporters

Tens of thousands of Iraq war protesters marched in DC on Saturday while a few dozen people who support the war cowered behind a large number of policemen and women and a barricade. Yes, you read that correctly; Bush/War supporters literally hid from those who disagree with them. Why? Well, because those who disagree with them make up the majority of the country, and they don't know how to deal with being a minute contingency of the country. To be honest, I'm not quite sure what pro-war/anti-troop folks are so afraid of, but it very well may be intelligent discussion or having to admit they're wrong. All I know is they are very angry, and very scared. Further, instead of trying to make themselves look reasonable and as if they deserve a chance to have their voices heard, they decided to hurl insults at American veterans marching against the war. Surprising? No. Typical? YES. The title of this post, "You stay classy, Bush/War supporters", came to be after I read some of the choice comments pro-war/anti-troop "Americans" made Saturday afternoon in D.C. And of course, by "classy", I mean "total belligerent trash":
"I've seen how leftist politicians hate the military. It's disgusting. We're fighting a war not in Iraq but with them," said Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson, a retired Air Force pilot
War supporters staked out three blocks on Pennsylvania Avenue to await the war protesters. A large police presence and metal barricades separated the groups, but not their words.
Note: War/Bush supporters cannot claim that "hippies don't work and WE do" this time as a reason for why there were so few of them in attendance; the event was held on a Saturday. It seems the "hippies" made it to the rally while the pro-war/anti-troop folks stayed home to watch college football.
"Commies out of D.C.!" came the chants from one corner of 10th Street NW. Across the street, two middle-aged men shouted obscenities into the face of a young man in full camouflage and a bandanna that concealed all but his eyes. The young man remained silent amid the screaming, holding a sign over his head that read "Support the troops, end the war."
I'm sure the young veteran would like an apology. Please go ahead and leave apologies in my comments section, since this is CLEARLY despicable behavior from the radical anti-troop right that demands address and retraction.
A bus had been painted with anti-war slogans including "Impeach Bush-Cheney Now!!" A man at Pennsylvania Avenue and Sixth Street shouted "Drive your bus into the Potomac. You're all idiots. . . . Relieve us of your stupidity."
Hmmmmm. The pro-war/anti-troop folks make a very compelling and intelligent argument, huh? Nice job, guys, seriously; hi-5s all around on that one.

::ends sarcasm::

Thankfully, anti-war/pro-troop folks at least understand the importance of rational debate:
A conversation began between war protesters Ocek Eke, 38, of Elon, N.C., and Rich DeStefano, 64, of Philadelphia.

"We don't have to yell and scream at each other. Ultimately, we want the best for our country," Eke said.

"He makes good sense," DeStefano replied.

"If we call each other names, we'll never have a dialogue," said Eke.

DeStefano: "Absolutely right."


Blogger CJ said...

crazy how 10 blocks away can seem like another world. I was out enjoying an amazingly beautiful day walking around Logan's Circle and Dupont having brunch with friends only hearing some quick comment about there being a war protest going on down near the capital...if I wasn't so tired and hung over I would have poured my bloody marry into a plastic cup and walked on down!

12:45 PM  
Blogger Cargosquid said...

Well, you have it half right. I agree that hurling insults will not change anything. However, that does apply to the ANSWER group as well. I was insulted many times while not returning insults. The flag next to me was spit upon. I was an identifiable veteran.
And we were not hiding. We were most definitely not hiding. I don't know where you were, but there were at least 1000 people lined along the street near the Navy Memorial with me. The GOE had about 2500 people and the ANSWER had about 7-10000 at the most. More probably went straight to capitol than marched.
I think that alot of the hostility is that the Vets see this a continuance of the 60's mentality when the "antiwar" movement betrayed the troops. Many vets feel such antipathy toward those that appear to hate and blame America, those vets feel that the cops protect the antiwar group from them. They are not hiding. They want to react to the provocations. You may not think that dishonoring the flag is a provocation. But we would die for that flag. And those "vets" marching, don't make me laugh. If those are vets, no one is making them dishonor their flag and their service. If they want to march, fine. I know many vets against the Iraq campaign. But they don't associate with those that hate America. The actual peace movement loses credibility by associating with the communist group ANSWER and the group Code Pink, that insults the troops, sent money to terrorists in Fallujah, and vandalized the Navy Memorial in January.
Will the antiwar group apologize for the insults to OUR veterans? Will Code Pink apologize for displaying "flag draped coffins" outside of Walter Reed? Great way to support the troops. We see this at every protest. Some don't hide it and actually say that they don't support the troops. At least THEY're honest.
Thank you.

9:05 AM  
Blogger ConcreteBob said...

Well, I've seen fuzzy math before but that takes the cake. 10's of 1,000's??? How about 8,000 of you anti-America pro-terrorist moonbats and 4,000 freedom loving, military supporting PATRIOTS, each of whom represented 20 who couldn't make it, because they have lives and JOBS. So lets use your fuzzy math and say we outnumbered your sniveling little high school rally by about 10 to 1.
It's easy to corrupt the young into believing anything nowadays.
At least we don't force our children to take part in a march we know will be fugly. Ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves, making that child tie caution tape around her wrists and walking that gauntlet.
Typial moonbat looooooooooosers.

7:27 PM  
Blogger Phriendly Jaime said...

Provide a source for that, Bob, or I am removing it. That's copyright infringement and I will not be penalized for your comments.


12:09 PM  
Blogger Phriendly Jaime said...

I gave you 3 days and deleted.

5:11 PM  
Blogger ConcreteBob said...

There are no copyright infringements, you just don't like reading the truth from a man who lived it and died for your right to speak your mind. Sgt Jeffers father has asked that anything Eddie wrote be posted in as many places as possible.
Here's your source
Sgt Jeffers
first post
Freedom Feels Good
by Sgt Eddie Jeffers
February 10, 2007

Everyday, I live, I breathe, and I think Iraq. It is my life...more so than many of the so called experts who rant and rave about it. I walk these streets, I trudge through this darkness that so much of my life has seemed to become. And I am frustrated. It is hard to battle on the behalf of the ungrateful.

The Iraqis are just as guilty as the Americans in this. It infuriates me to no end to try so hard, to put myself and the ones I lead into the line of fire, and to be forsaken by the ones I am here to save. They turn their heads when we ask questions. They say there are no terrorists...but there are...everywhere. The Iraqi people unfortunately respond only to force, violence, has been their life for so long. Our cultures and religions alone widen the gap between our struggles over here.

The ones who have stepped up to fight are few...the Army and police are small, and struggling to grow. They are the hope of their nation ever leaving our control.

But more than anyone, I sometimes see futility in my actions. I fight, I kill, I scar myself emotionally, psychologically, and in some ways physically...and as I lay in the dark at night, I wonder what it's for. I wonder if the Iraqi people will ever get it together or if the country will collapse on itself whether I am here or not. It makes me angry, and a big part of me is content to let it fall apart. Part of me doesn't care what happens to this God-forsaken city after I leave long as "me and my boys" make it out in one piece.

But that is the viewpoint of a man who wishes his actions to be in vain. I do not. I have lost very close friends over here. I don't want their lives to have been given in vain. Simply put, we are fighters. We are all in the same place for various reasons, for me, it's personal. I am in a modern day crusade to exterminate evil. People whose atrocities I cannot even begin to name cannot be allowed to exist among us. As long as these people are here, everything that is just and good is at risk.

I am not naive...not anymore, too many people who believe in good are unaffected by evil. I have faced it and compromised with it and even felt its poison flow in my veins at times. But this is for a purpose; if anything to provide the example. If the Iraqi people have learned one thing, it is that the Americans will not quit. They gun us down and we advance without blinking, through homes, living rooms, kitchens, into the streets, courtyards, palm groves and back into their face. That example of unrelenting spirit is our greatest gift to the Iraqi people. Some of them have taken the example to heart and signed up for the Army and police.

Things can't change overnight and we can't expect a country whose culture has been dominated by state mandated way of thinking to change in an instance...take the Japanese in World War Two for example. Our example as warriors for the just and good, who will never quit no matter what is thrown at us or no matter how many fall will pay off eventually. But first we have to break the back of a way of thinking that has been in place for took some very horrible things to break the "yamato damashii" of the Japanese in our Second World War, but we succeeded and look at them now.

The Iraqis are capable of free government but we cannot call it quits because we think they aren't. Someone has to believe in them, someone has to help them out; someone has to provide the example. We are showing it to them. Some have taken it, many haven't, but it will spread...because freedom feels good.

"Blessed be the Lord my Strength, who teaches my hands to war, and my fingers to fight." Psalm 144:

10:10 AM  
Blogger ConcreteBob said...

Sgt Jeffers 2nd Post:
again, no copyright infringement, just following the request of a father who raised a son who believed in freedom and the Mission.
The Real Deal in Ramadi
April 17, 2007

So now, the war has changed on us. Transitioning into a new role, we strapped on the guise of military advisors, security guards and bringers of goodies to the Iraqi people. After the push we established a Joint Security Station and reintroduced the Iraqi Army and the Iraqi Police back into the area. They've been doing patrols and keeping the peace and doing a damn fine job of it. We go out with them here and there but we leave it mostly to them.

We've been recruiting more police and outfitting them with better vehicles and equipment. We've been going around, getting the citizens to take a little charge and fix their city up. We've tossed around a little money and hired day laborers so to speak. The people have grown to trust us. They make citizen's arrests of insurgents and turn them over to us. We received little to no contact since the push and we have implemented a system that is working now.

All across Iraq, units are taking note. Everyone from the media to General Petraeus himself has come out here to see what we've done. We're winning the war and setting a good example of how to do it. Although my boys are bored because there aren't any doors to kick in or insurgents to shoot, they realize that this is the ticket out of this country in the right way. Overall, things are going go.

So, three more months than originally planned.Nothing that can be done about it except what we're doing now; continuing the mission and insuring America's success in this war

10:15 AM  
Blogger ConcreteBob said...

This comment has been removed by the author.

10:25 AM  
Blogger ConcreteBob said...

In case you're really worried, although why I can't imagine, it would take a class action suit to get everyone for copyright infringement since his essays have been posted on every blog in the universe, this is the original source

10:34 AM  
Blogger ConcreteBob said...

Excerpt from Hope Rides Alone by Sgt Eddie Jeffers
KIA 19 September 2007 Ramadi Iraq:
People like Cindy Sheehan are ignorant. Not just to this war, but to the results of their idiotic ramblings, or at least I hope they are. They don’t realize its effects on this war. In this war, there are no Geneva Conventions, no cease fires. Medics and Chaplains are not spared from the enemy’s brutality because it’s against the rules. I can only imagine the horrors a military Chaplain would experience at the hands of the enemy. The enemy slinks in the shadows and fights a coward’s war against us. It is effective though, as many men and women have died since the start of this war. And the memory of their service to America is tainted by the inconsiderate remarks on our nation’s news outlets. And every day, the enemy changes…only now, the enemy is becoming something new. The enemy is transitioning from the Muslim extremists to Americans. The enemy is becoming the very people whom we defend with our lives. And they do not realize it. But in denouncing our actions, denouncing our leaders, denouncing the war we live and fight, they are isolating the military from society…and they are becoming our enemy.

10:52 AM  
Blogger Phriendly Jaime said...

Thanks for the links, I appreciate it. As for your knowledge on CR infringement, blogs have been taken down by their own creators bc of the very laws you clearly know nothing about. So yes; I will continue to delete comments that cut and paste large amounts of text without a source.

Don't like it? Go back to your ODBA friends and hi 5 each other for sharing opinions.

10:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Show some class and show us some tits, woman.

12:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd prefer to see the hatchet wound.

12:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get back in the kitchen, woman, and don't come out until you're nekkid and have me a sandwich made. And, unless you've got a bald beaver, put a hair net on that bush. Nothing worse than short and curlies on my salami. That is all.

9:44 AM  
Anonymous Mia Mathers said...

Have you ever had a boy spooge up your nose? Word of advice: REMOVE IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT LET IT DRY! Otherwise, you'll wind up pulling out all your nose hairs with it. Trust me on this one.

11:58 AM  
Blogger Thaddaeus Toad said...

1st degrading comment: Wow.

2nd degrading comment: WOW.

3rd comment: You are CLEARLY classy. There is a reason you are single; I think we all know why that is.

4th comment: I WILL trust you on that one; you seem to know about it.

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